EP30 Nora Bateson on Complexity & the Transcontextual



Nora Bateson talks with Jim about her recent book, her father & grandfather’s academic impact, thinking transcontextually, Game B, warm data labs, and much more…

Nora Bateson

Nora Bateson, award-winning filmmaker, writer, educator, and President of the International Bateson Institute talks with Jim about the work of the International Bateson Institute, her father (Gregory Bateson) & grandfather’s (William Bateson) academic histories & the impact they had on her work, complex systems, the dangers of mental monocropping, what it means to think transcontextually, cross-cultural collaboration & awareness, some of her observations on Swedish culture & the role of the state, conviviality in modern culture, the generational component of Game B, what’s emerging in her warm data labs, liminality, leadership as a Jazz solo, and much more.

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Nora Bateson is an award-winning filmmaker, writer and educator, as well as President of the International Bateson Institute, based in Sweden. Her work asks the question, “How we can improve our perception of the complexity we live within, so we may improve our interaction with the world?” An international lecturer, researcher and writer, Nora wrote, directed and produced the award-winning documentary, An Ecology of Mind, a portrait of her father, Gregory Bateson. Her work brings the fields of biology, cognition, art, anthropology, psychology, and information technology together into a study of the patterns in ecology of living systems. Her book, Small Arcs of Larger Circles, is a revolutionary personal approach to the study of systems and complexity.


3 thoughts on “EP30 Nora Bateson on Complexity & the Transcontextual

  1. I loved this podcast. I read Nora’s book this past summer. I was familiar with her father’s work, and I have read Mary Catherine Bateson’s books. I am a consultant/facilitator for faith based systems, non-profits, etc. I would love to learn more about the process involved in Warm Data Labs—as a process facilitator I use invite groups into the disciplines of inquiry, dialogue, getting in touch with bias and assumptions, but this process sounds like an experiential applied exercise in ‘living dialogue’ and then mutually harvesting the richness of the wisdom that emerged.

  2. Hi Jim,

    its my first listen to the podcast. I am enjoying so far and the episode I am listening to is episode 30.
    Nora Bateson mentions research about “children, ages three and four, both perceive and actually can do abstract complex thinking”. My wife is doing a language masters degree and is interested in the idea that most of the learning is done on the learners side naturally without too much from the teachers side. Where on the website can I follow up that research regarding abstract thing at an early age.
    Have a lovely Christmas.

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