EP37 Jared Janes on Spirituality



Meditator & thinker Jared Janes talks with Jim about why he still uses the word ‘spiritual’, altered states vs altered traits, the equation & dynamics of suffering, understanding our own intentions, the confabulating mind, embodied intuition, the value & limits of conceptuality, what the self is & its usefulness, attention & awareness, the pleasure of concentration, metaphysics, and more.

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Jared Janes is a podcast producer/host (The Jim Rutt Show, Both/And, & Impactful), a management consultant, and a committed meditator. He’s been a daily meditator for over five years, has completed multiple meditation courses from different traditions, attends multiple meditation retreats each year, and personally coaches meditators in his spare time. Before podcasting & consulting he built a career in digital operations & management, started & ran a nonprofit, played a video game semi-professionally, and spent his spare time learning about personal performance, science & philosophy.


2 thoughts on “EP37 Jared Janes on Spirituality

  1. I really enjoyed the last two conversations, thanks! One question I have been pondering for some time relates to psychedelics induced experiences. How it would ever be possible to create any intricate pattern with a crude chemical intervention into an extremely complex network? It is understandable that semi-random intensive firing in certain brain regions could create surprising experiences that are enjoyable in a safe circumstances (many people laugh at surprises that are not threatening). It probably also can kick the brain network out of some persistent attractor and thus open new possibilities for learning. But can it really create any ‘deep’ insight on its own?

    1. From my perspective, it can since it disrupts a large part of the filtering element of the mind/body but the problem from my POV is that psychedelic-assisted insight is hard to re-incorporate into daily, moment-to-moment experience since it’s so foreign. Contemplative practice starts from moment-to-moment life and builds on it slowly which makes it easier to incorporate and find key elements in our sober states of mind.

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